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Electrical panel upgrades in Los Angeles

An electrical panel upgrade, or replacing an old fuse box or breaker panel, is more than a new box on the wall. Most of the work, and usually most of the price, is in the service entrance and the circuits that have to come up to what is required now.

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Copper branch conductors dressed in parallel runs into the bus of a newly installed residential load center.

What decides this job

  1. How far the new panel is from where the power comes in
  2. Whether the service entrance and the meter socket get reused
  3. How many circuits have to come up to what is required now
  4. Which utility and which permit desk your address is on. Look up your address
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What a panel upgrade involves

The load center on the wall is the visible part and it is rarely the expensive part. A service upgrade takes in the service entrance conductors, the meter socket, the main disconnect, the grounding electrode system and the bonding, and then every circuit that has to be brought up to what is required now before it can go back on the bus.

That is why two quotes for the same house can be far apart. One of them is pricing a box. The other is pricing the job the box is part of.

A residential service entrance on a stucco wall: the overhead drop and weatherhead at the top, the sealed meter socket below it, and the main disconnect beneath that.The service entrance · weatherhead, meter, disconnect

Which half of the job is ours

The meter is a real line on the side of your house, and every cost on this job falls on one side of it or the other. Above it, the service drop, the transformer and anything in the street belong to the utility, which in most of this county means LADWP or Southern California Edison. What it costs is worked out by their service planning engineer, and it is not money we keep. Below it, the price is ours and it is written down before anything starts.

We tell you which side each part of your job falls on before you are asked to decide anything. Find your utility and your permit desk.

The inside of a finished residential panel with the cover off: conductors dressed in neat parallel runs with square bends, breakers seated in an even row, and a blank circuit directory card on the open door.A finished panel, cover off

What a finished panel looks like

Conductors dressed in parallel runs with square bends, breakers seated in an even row, and a directory card that gets filled in before the cover goes back on. A panel somebody can read is a panel the next person can work on safely, and it is what a final inspection is looking at.

What moves the number on a panel job

  1. How far the new panel is from where the power comes in. Moving it to the other side of the house is a different job from replacing it where it stands.
  2. Whether the service entrance conductors and the meter socket get reused. Sometimes what is already there is fine. Sometimes it is the reason a quote went up.
  3. How many circuits have to be brought up to what is required now. AFCI breakers cost more than plain ones, and a quote that leaves them out is cheaper and is not a finished job.
  4. Which permit desk your address is on, and whether anything has to change on the utility’s side of the meter. The permit fee is not in our number. You pay it to your city directly.
  5. What is behind the wall. Old splices, a circuit nobody knew about, cloth insulation that falls apart when it moves.

If your insurance company named your panel

Letters like this usually name a Federal Pacific, Zinsco, Challenger or Pushmatic panel and give you 30 to 90 days. They usually ask for a licensed contractor, a permit that gets closed, and a final inspection sign-off. A paid invoice is not what they are asking for.

Tell us what the letter says. We will tell you which of the four you have and what the letter is asking for, and if a photograph of the label inside the panel door would help, we will ask for one when we get back to you.

Do you really need 200 amps?

Sometimes not. A load calculation answers it, and where the answer is that a smaller service is enough, we say so. We will tell you that on the phone.

Adding a charger or central air is often what raises the question. Our Encino page walks through it for the 1950s and 60s houses there.

A residential Los Angeles street in late afternoon with overhead service drops running from the poles to the houses.

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